Dr. Phil Says Ye and Kim Kardashian's Children Could 'Wind Up in Foster Care'

The licensed psychologist said that if the court finds Ye to be a risk to the family and determines that Kim did not take proper steps to protect their children, both parents could potentially lose custody.

March 27, 2025
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Dr. Phil thinks Ye and Kim Kardashian’s custody drama could land their children in foster care. 

The licensed psychologist — real name Phil McGraw — explained his position in the March 26 episode of 2 Angry Men, a podcast series hosted by TMZ’s Harvey Levin and attorney Mark Geragos​​​​​​​. The broadcast focused on Kim’s escalating co-parenting dispute with her ex-husband, Ye, and its impact on their four kids: North, 11; Saint, 9; Chicago, 7; and Psalm, 5.

“As a parent, you have an undivided loyalty to your children,” Dr. Phil said. “You’ve got to take whatever measures are necessary to protect their physical, mental, emotional wellbeing. If you can negotiate that… and you can predict that’s going to stick, then obviously that’s great. And if you cannot, if they make agreements and don’t keep them… then you must immediately — and with intention ‚ seek whatever methods available under the law to compel the other side to comply and do what’s necessary.”

Dr. Phil said he’s never met Ye and was in no position to “render an opinion on what his pathology is”; however, Dr. Phil said the multihyphenate has displayed “troubling” behavior that may require Kardashian to take legal action. 

“If you need an emergency intervention, then you get an emergency intervention,” he continued. “What we do not want is for these children to wind up in foster care because that system is broken… If you think, well, with this kind of money, they’re not gonna wind up in foster care… that’s wrong.”

Dr. Phil said it’s “absolutely” possible for the ex-couple to lose custody of their children if the court determines Ye posed a risk to the family and Kardashian failed to take steps to protect them. 

“If the DCF (Department of Children and Families) gets involved and thinks one parent isn’t reacting while the other is unstable, they will take them,” he said. “Now, they’re likely to place them with family members rather than strangers, but you don’t want these children left hanging out to dry.”

Kim and Ye tied the knot in 2014 and finalized their divorce roughly eight years later. Their relationship hit another low in recent weeks, with Ye declaring he was ready to go to “war” with his ex-wife after learning she owned the trademark to their oldest daughter’s name. He also accused the Kardashians of sex trafficking their own children.

“The Kardashians are sex workers and they sex traffic all of the black children they strategically produce,” he wrote on social media. “Kim Kardashian is a sex trafficker.”

Sources told Page Six that Ye’s erratic behavior is “terrifying” Kardashian, and it’s unclear if they’ll ever recover.

“It’s not getting any better, he’s not a well person, he’s sinking further down and he’s not acting rationally,” the insider said. “There’s so much negativity — I don’t think he can come out of this.”